The cams are the same though. So there you have it. If you have a late model Monster, the first mod to make is getting rid of the standard cams and maybe the valves.
This puts you behind the eight ball from the start unfortunately. I have ridden one of these Monsters with a kit and a jet kit and could not believe just how slow it was. It was only when I checked the build date that I realised what was wrong. It felt much the same as a standard early model, maybe even a little slower. Not what I would expect from a The not so good carb engine came in Monster from engine number and the Cagiva Elefant series.
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The differences are camshafts and valves. These lower spec engines have cams and valves. The valves are a couple of mm smaller. The cams are a little wacky, being about the same duration, but lower lift than the good cams, with different timing, much wider lobe separation and less overlap.
To my mind, they are an old cam design, borne out by the part number beginning withindicating something from the early or mid eighties. The inlet timing and lift is almost the same as the 4V Strada cam. Now that I think about it, the exhaust is similar to the 4V exhaust also. As far as I am concerned, the only thing these cams are good for opening is the bin as you throw them away. Riding Monsters with the detuned engine makes you wonder what the hell they thought they were going to achieve.
It does explain, however, why the Elefants always felt slow for a To get the wacky one out of the way first. The ie Cagiva Elefant of had a fuel injected version of the engine, but only a 5 speed gear box. At least the only one I have ever ridden did.
Not worth worrying about too much. I don't even care what cams are in this one. Apart from that and the efi, I believe they are basically the same. I could be wrong, but it's not important enough to me to go and make a detailed check. The cams are very similar to the ST2 cams, although the ST2 cams have a little more lobe separation, for a little less overlap. Obviously having a go at Cagiva for the past, the engines supplied for use in the Gran Canyons appear to be fuel injected versions of the old Elefant engine, with the crappy cams and small valves.
They certainly feel that way. These engines do use the Weber Marelli 1. On this point, you have to award the win to Cagiva.
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Genuine Ducati Corse Motor Refresh Kit R Panigale Superstock This kit has been created by Ducati Corse for the recommended maintenance of the R engine when used in Superstock racing, other similar race series' or even regular track usage.
The engine overhaul that requires this kit is to be carried out every km for a machine used in Superstock. This kit includes everything that is needed to keep the motor in a reliable state and deliver optimal performance. Last edited: Jul 21, Reactions: 2 people.
Aug 12 US. If I only knew how to put this together. Phl Forum Staff. Feb 7, 4, here. Holy crap Know what this means Reactions: 1 person. Jan Switzerland.Log in or Join. Adventure Rider. Dismiss Notice. Become a site supporter for a free shirt and ad free viewing. DesmoDogOct 28, I got it back on the road a few years ago, this is a retrospective as it were.
Is it for Sale? Is it for sale? Finally it WAS for sale. Road salt does nasty things to aluminum so I wrapped it up best I could. Unwrapped and in the basement The Duc is a springer and the dog is named Desmo. How ironic? Yes, I named my dog Desmo. But make no mistake, I like my dogs even more than my Ducs. As for my username, I needed a screen name one night, he walked by as I was thinking, the rest is history While not actually round, the "roundcase" sidecovers are more curved than the later squared off "squarecase" bevels.
Nice wiring Yeah, the bike was a little ratty, but mostly there. At the time I wasn't sure if that was smart. In retrospect is was probably the best deal I'll ever get on a Ducati. I had thoughts of buying one of the retro styled bikes instead, but decided that a new bike would depreciate so I'd lose money there too. Plus, this one would be the real deal.
I'm pretty happy I got it when I did, I don't think I could afford to rebuild a bike like this at today's prices. I didn't have a tool to lock the engine so before I removed the chain I did this and then broke loose all the locknuts on the crank and cams. The nut holding the countershaft sprocket on was only finger tight so I didn't need it for that.
The inner workings Belts? We don't need no stinkin' belts! Most of the aluminum looked like this Nice air filter! ADV Sponsors. When I bought it we thought the engine was locked up, but when I got it home I noticed the engine would turn backwards but not forwards.
The bike has sat for years, there's cat food in the air filter, I wonder what kind of crap is in the cylinders? The front head. You can just see the dirt that built up in it that stopped the piston from going over TDC. She's going to need some new pistons, both of them were scuffed and the rings in this one were locked solid.
The odometer read a bit over 62, miles when I got it, and the speedo cable was broken so I'm not sure just how many miles were on the bike. Apparently flaking rockers are nothing new. I didn't take any pictures of the rockers which were losing their chrome but the cams looked like this.
The rest of the engine looked pretty good actually so I'll spare you the pics of the rest of it until rebuild time. Which reminds me, this is a bit out of order. In real time I had gotten some work done on the chassis before I started pulling the engine apart, so enough of the engine for now and on to the rebuild. The first order of business was replacing dull with shiny.RevZilla will match any advertised price on new merchandise available through another authorized U.
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The belt wheel spindles have flat edges for a spanner and I assume they are tightened in with thread lock. So presumably some heat and a bit of force will take care of them. I feel like the spark plug tubes though might be a different story.
Looking on a parts diagram the tube cannot be purchased separately from the head. Again I once the bolts are removed I guess its a bit of heat some force. So my question is, has anyone had experience removing and refitting these parts. If so are there any gotchas? Hi mate. I was wondering how you were getting on with the build This year maybe? Like x 1. Pics we like pics!
FaffingtonMar 8, Here's some general pictures of the engine pre and post vapour blasting. Like x 5. I've managed to get the spark plug tubes out and there is a company locally I've used for coating before who I think will at least be able to Zinc coat them. However, I just can't get the cam wheel spindles out and I am worried out braking the aluminium part in the vice while I try and unscrew them. They're not a left-hand thread or anything, are they?
FaffingtonMar 9, Prob loctited in. There is. I am sure it was mentioned the other day but might've been for the earlier desmo. Like x 2.